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Masters in Business

Bloomberg Radio host Barry Ritholtz speaks to the people and ideas that shape markets, investing and business.

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Jul 24 · Balancing $5.7T in Active and Passive Management with Lori Heinel6 stories

State Street CIO Lori Heinel on Navigating 5.7 Trillion in Assets

Lori Heinel, Global Chief Investment Officer at State Street, discusses her extensive career in finance, starting with an analyst program at First Boston after studying religion and economics at Princeton. She highlights lessons learned from the 1987 market crash and the evolution of her career through various roles at institutions like Credit Suisse, Parker Hunter, Mellon Financial, and SEI Investments, before arriving at State Street.

Heinel: Fixed Income Indexing Has 'Plenty of Room to Run'

Lori Heinel believes that indexing, particularly in fixed income, has significant growth potential, despite claims that indexing is saturated. She points to the retail investor's increasing adoption of ETFs and the potential for growth in areas like emerging debt and high-yield bonds as key drivers.

AI's Impact: State Street CIO Discusses Firm's Decade-Long AI Journey

Lori Heinel, Global CIO at State Street, explained that the firm has been utilizing AI and machine learning for over a decade, focusing on operational efficiencies and augmenting investment processes. While acknowledging the significant spending on AI, she noted that the firm is also experimenting with concepts like a 'research copilot' to enhance portfolio managers' capabilities.

Heinel: Volatility of Crypto 'Wild' - Jury Still Out on Case

Lori Heinel expressed skepticism about the investment case for cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin, despite acknowledging their significant price appreciation. She noted her initial disbelief in Bitcoin's creation and her regret for not investing early on, but still struggles to understand its fundamental value proposition compared to assets like gold.

State Street CIO Advocates for Diversified Portfolios Amid Market Shifts

Lori Heinel, Global CIO at State Street, emphasizes the importance of a diversified investment portfolio, advising against trying to perfectly time market inflection points. She suggests that while large-cap US growth stocks have dominated, other areas like small-cap, emerging markets, and Europe may offer opportunities.

The 'Fearless Girl' Campaign: A Symbol of Standing Up for Others

Lori Heinel recounts her unexpected role in the 'Fearless Girl' campaign, initially placing the statue opposite Wall Street's charging bull. She describes being called in at the last minute to be present during the statue's placement and subsequently finding herself explaining the campaign's message of advocacy for those who cannot speak for themselves on numerous news programs.

Jul 22 · At The Money: Hungry? Should You Invest in Wheat?5 stories

Wheat ETF (WAT) Offers Investors Exposure to Agricultural Futures

Sal Gilberti of Techrium Trading explains that the wheat ETF (WAT) was created to offer investors exposure to wheat futures without the direct risks and complexities of managing futures contracts. The ETF is designed to track wheat prices through futures, providing a way for individuals to invest in commodities through their standard stock accounts.

Wheat's Global Significance and Price Drivers Discussed

Sal Gilberti emphasizes that wheat is a more political commodity than oil and is a fundamental staple crop globally, integral to human life. He notes that while India is the largest grower, its export volume is low, making global export availability the key factor influencing wheat prices, as dramatically seen during the Ukraine conflict.

Understanding Contango and Backwardation in Commodity Futures

Sal Gilberti explains contango as the 'cost of carry,' where futures prices typically increase with longer maturities to account for storage and holding costs. Backwardation, conversely, occurs during disruptions when nearby prices are higher than futures prices due to immediate supply shortages, indicating a market anomaly rather than a natural state.

Weather and Geopolitics Drive Wheat Price Volatility

Sal Gilberti identifies weather and geopolitics as the primary drivers of wheat price volatility. He explains that while sanctions typically do not apply to food, geopolitical events like the Ukraine war can create a 'war premium' affecting shipping and thus prices, but prolonged droughts in major producing regions are the most significant factor, potentially leading to sharp price increases.

Strategic Investment in Wheat ETF (WAT) for Inflation and Geopolitical Hedging

Sal Gilberti suggests that investors should consider strategic allocations to commodity ETFs like WAT, especially when wheat prices are historically low, typically around a dollar a bushel more than corn. He posits that such investments can act as a hedge against food inflation and geopolitical turmoil, offering potential upside as supply disruptions historically lead to price spikes.

Jul 17 · Challenging The Titans of Asset Management with Jason Wenk7 stories

Altruist CEO Jason Wenk Criticizes Legacy Custodian Infrastructure as Outdated

Jason Wenk, founder and CEO of Altruist, described the current infrastructure used by financial professionals as "pretty old," with many systems dating back 50 to 70 years and operating on mainframes. He highlighted issues such as the inability of custodians like Schwab and Fidelity to provide consolidated household-level reporting without third-party software and the complexities of fee billing processes.

Altruist CEO: 'First They Ignore You, Then They Laugh at You, Then You Win'

Jason Wenk shared his perspective on how the established custodian market reacted to Altruist's launch, comparing it to a known saying: 'First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then you win.' He noted that while incumbents like Schwab and TD Ameritrade (now part of Schwab) might have been dismissive, independent advisors were receptive, with thousands signing up for waitlists and hundreds becoming design partners.

Wenk: Fractional Shares Key to Improving Investor Outcomes, Disintermediating Packaged Products

Jason Wenk argues that custodians' reluctance to enable fractional shares costs investors significant money, limits tax benefits, and increases average account size. He suggests this may be a strategy to protect revenue from cash spreads or to disintermediate packaged products like mutual funds, which generate substantial distribution fees.

Altruist's Hazel AI Aims to Lower Costs for Complex Financial Planning

Jason Wenk discussed Altruist's AI product, Hazel, which is designed to significantly reduce the cost of complex financial planning tasks. He stated that Hazel can bring down the unit costs for tasks like tax planning to as little as three to five dollars, making sophisticated financial advice accessible to a wider audience.

Altruist CEO: Market Recipe for Disruption - Large, Growing, Dominated by Old Companies

Jason Wenk outlined the ideal conditions for disruption in the custodian market, citing its large, fast-growing nature and dominance by older companies with outdated infrastructure and low Net Promoter Scores (NPS). He noted that Schwab holds over 50% market share in the RIA segment, with Fidelity being the second largest.

Wenk: Modern Custodians Combat Cyber Threats with 'Strong Offense'

Jason Wenk stated that modern custodians can better defend against cyber threats by building security protocols from the ground up. He contrasted this with older institutions relying on legacy systems, which he believes present hundreds of critical vulnerabilities. Wenk emphasized the importance of modern multi-factor authentication and even eliminating higher-risk methods like phone calls.

Altruist CEO: Mission-Driven Approach Attracts 'Missionaries Not Mercenaries'

Jason Wenk believes that his mission-driven approach to building businesses, focused on helping people and serving clients, attracts passionate employees. He referred to these employees as 'missionaries not mercenaries,' highlighting that this ethos allows him to assemble exceptionally talented teams like the one at Altruist.

Jul 15 · At The Money:  When Should Do-It-Yourself Investors Fire Themselves?6 stories

Dr. Jordan Grummitt Advises DIY Investors on When to Seek Professional Help

Physician and author Dr. Jordan Grummitt suggests that do-it-yourself (DIY) investors may need to 'fire themselves' and seek professional help as their financial needs become more complex. He advises that while accumulation phases are manageable for many DIY investors, significant life transitions like retirement, inheritance, divorce, or the shift from accumulation to decumulation are critical junctures where professional guidance is often necessary.

DIY Investors Prone to Overconfidence and 'Alpha Chasing,' Says Dr. Grummitt

Dr. Jordan Grummitt identifies overconfidence and the pursuit of 'alpha' as common pitfalls for young do-it-yourself (DIY) investors. He warns against concentrating risk in the stock market beyond professional capabilities, advising that focusing on beta and index investing is generally more prudent for most individuals.

The 'Escape Velocity' Theory: Money as Courage, Not Just Spending Power

Dr. Jordan Grummitt proposes his 'escape velocity' theory, suggesting that the true purpose of accumulating wealth is not solely for retirement spending, but to gain the courage to leave an undesirable life and pursue a more fulfilling one. He notes that this required amount of money is often less than anticipated and that people may prioritize the security of a large safety net over immediate spending.

The 'Fun Bucket' Strategy: A Behavioral Trick to Encourage Spending

To combat the tendency of financially sophisticated individuals to hoard wealth, Dr. Jordan Grummitt discusses strategies like setting up an explicit 'paycheck' or a 'fun bucket' of money designated for spending. This behavioral approach aims to provide the psychological permission and structure needed for individuals, even those with substantial assets, to actually enjoy their wealth.

Financial Advisors Should Use a 'Biopsychosocial Model' for Client Assessment

Dr. Jordan Grummitt advocates for financial advisors to adopt a 'biopsychosocial model,' similar to medical practice, to understand clients holistically. He stresses that effective financial advice begins with understanding a client's life goals, dreams, and important relationships, rather than focusing solely on numerical targets like net worth.

Complacency, Not Just Overconfidence, is a Risk for Mature DIY Investors

Dr. Jordan Grummitt notes that while young DIY investors often struggle with overconfidence and seeking alpha, mature DIY investors face the risk of complacency. He emphasizes the need for older investors to remain aware of global changes and modify their risk exposure, shifting focus from returns to loss mitigation as they approach decumulation.

Jul 9 · Insuring Rare and Collectible Cars and Boats with McKeel Hagerty8 stories

McKeel Hagerty's Journey: From Theology Student to Collector Car Insurance Mogul

McKeel Hagerty, CEO of Hagerty, shared his unconventional educational path, which included a master's in theology, before he pivoted to the family business. He explained how he transformed the niche wooden boat insurance agency into a publicly traded company focused on collector cars by embracing the community around them.

McKeel Hagerty's Porsche 911 S: A Thirteen-Year-Old's Entrepreneurial Spark

McKeel Hagerty recounted purchasing a 1967 Porsche 911 S for $500 at the age of thirteen, which he then restored with his father. This experience, involving mowing lawns and selling apples to fund parts, was a formative entrepreneurial endeavor and his first significant car deal.

Hagerty's Transformation: From Insurance to Automotive Club

McKeel Hagerty described a pivotal moment in 1995 where he realized Hagerty could thrive by acting as a club for car owners rather than just an insurance business. This insight led him to drop out of his PhD program and shift the company's focus to building an automotive-branded business centered around membership.

Hagerty's Partnership Strategy: Competing with Giants by Collaborating

McKeel Hagerty explained Hagerty's strategic shift from competing with major insurance companies to partnering with them. This approach allowed Hagerty to leverage its expertise in collector cars and customer data, leading to successful collaborations with large insurers like Allstate and a scalable business model.

Hagerty's Valuation Data: The Secret Sauce in Collector Car Insurance

McKeel Hagerty highlighted the critical role of data in Hagerty's success, particularly in valuing collector cars. He explained that a proprietary serial number decoder for pre-1981 cars allows them to understand vehicle variations, which is crucial for accurate pricing and a key differentiator from larger insurance companies.

The 'Analog' Trend in Car Collecting: Manual Transmissions See a Resurgence

McKeel Hagerty noted a significant trend towards 'analog' driving experiences, particularly the demand for manual transmissions in modern and classic cars. He explained that auction data showing a premium for manual versions of vehicles, even luxury supercars, demonstrates a growing appreciation for a more engaging driving feel.

Generational Shift in Car Collecting: Millennials and Gen Z Embrace New Niches

McKeel Hagerty discussed the significant generational wealth transfer in collector cars, with an estimated twelve million enthusiast vehicles changing hands in the U.S. over fifteen years. He observed that younger generations are interested in different types of vehicles, including trucks, vintage SUVs, and performance cars from the 80s and 90s, diverging from previous generations' focus.

Hagerty's Data Reveals Broader Collector Car Market Beyond High-End Exotics

McKeel Hagerty stated that the public often overlooks the vast opportunities in the collector car market beyond headline-grabbing exotic cars. His data indicates a broad, inclusive hobby with appeal at every price point, including trucks and vintage SUVs, and a notable rise in female collectors.

Jul 8 · Bonus: The Future of Ride-Hailing with Lyft CEO David Risher16 stories

Lyft CEO David Risher Reflects on Career Path from Comparative Literature to Tech Leadership

Lyft CEO David Risher shared insights into his unconventional career trajectory during a Masters in Business interview. He revealed that his early interest in technology stemmed from his mother's Apple II computer and his own struggles with handwriting, leading him to use computers for his high school and college work. Risher emphasized that his humanities background, particularly in comparative literature, fostered curiosity, empathy, and the ability to understand different perspectives, which he believes are crucial for leadership.

Lyft CEO David Risher Details Early Career at Microsoft and Amazon

Lyft CEO David Risher discussed his formative experiences at Microsoft, where he was the first product manager for the Access database, and later at Amazon, where he joined as employee number 37. At Microsoft, Risher learned the importance of understanding customer needs by observing users of competing products. His transition to Amazon was prompted by a call from Jeff Bezos himself for a reference check, which ultimately led to Risher playing a key role in scaling Amazon's US retail operations from $15 million to $4 billion in revenue.

Lyft CEO David Risher on Leading Worldreader and Transitioning to Lyft

After his impactful tenure at Amazon, David Risher transitioned to running Worldreader, a non-profit focused on improving literacy through technology. He described this period as fulfilling a desire to teach and connect reading with technology, helping millions of children globally. The shift back to the corporate sector came when he joined Lyft's board, driven by a desire to advocate for customers and leverage his experience in scaling companies.

David Risher's Unexpected Path to Becoming Lyft CEO

Lyft CEO David Risher detailed his surprising appointment as CEO, which came about when the co-founders decided to step down. Initially hesitant, Risher eventually applied for the role after realizing the opportunity to leverage his experience from Microsoft, Amazon, and Worldreader. He acknowledged the company was facing financial and operational challenges, making the transition a significant undertaking.

Lyft CEO David Risher Outlines Strategy to Restore Profitability and Market Share

Upon taking the helm at Lyft, CEO David Risher discovered a company that, despite its innovative spirit, had spread itself too thin and was losing market share to competitors. His initial strategy focused on lowering prices for riders and significantly reducing costs, including a 26% workforce reduction. Simultaneously, Lyft increased driver pay, a move Risher described as necessary to reorient the company towards customer obsession and innovation, exemplified by the introduction of 'Women+ Connect'.

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Lyft CEO David Risher Discusses Global Expansion and Diversification Strategies

Lyft CEO David Risher detailed the company's strategy for future growth, emphasizing customer obsession and profitable expansion. Key initiatives include international expansion, notably the acquisition of European taxi aggregator Free Now, and moving 'upmarket' with services like Lyft Black and the acquisition of high-end chauffeur company TBR. Risher also highlighted the company's significant progress in generating cash flow, enabling investments in autonomous vehicles and other future growth areas.

Lyft CEO David Risher on Consumer Trends: Party Time, Commutes, and Travel Surge

Lyft CEO David Risher observed significant shifts in consumer behavior, with 'party time' (Thursday-Saturday evenings) and commutes showing strong growth. He attributed the rise in 'party time' partly to 'app fatigue,' driving people to seek real-world experiences. Risher also noted the resurgence of commutes and continued strength in travel, suggesting a broader societal desire to reconnect and engage in activities outside the home, influenced by post-COVID sentiments and generational preferences.

Lyft CEO David Risher on the Advantages of Being the 'Underdog' Competitor

Lyft CEO David Risher embraces the 'number two' position in the ride-sharing market, viewing it as a motivator to 'try harder' and focus on customer service. He believes a two-player market is optimal and emphasizes that Lyft's customer-obsessed approach differentiates it from competitors perceived as more technologically or financially driven. Risher highlighted Lyft's commitment to reliability, citing a dramatic reduction in driver cancellations and a focus on meeting promised arrival times.

Lyft CEO David Risher on Reducing Driver Cancellations and Improving Rider Experience

Lyft CEO David Risher highlighted the company's success in drastically reducing driver cancellations, bringing the rate down from 15% to under 4.5%. This improvement is attributed to providing drivers with more upfront information, such as potential earnings and drop-off locations, and refining features like 'arrive on time' to better integrate work into drivers' lives. Risher stressed that addressing such 'infuriating' issues for riders is a key focus.

Lyft CEO David Risher Discusses Strategic Partnerships and Growth in Smaller Markets

Lyft CEO David Risher explained the strategy behind Lyft's corporate partnerships, such as with United Airlines and Hilton Honors, which aim to enhance customer acquisition and retention by integrating loyalty programs. He also highlighted the company's focus on growth in smaller US markets and college towns, areas previously underserved. This expansion involves tackling the complex 'chicken and egg' problem of balancing driver and rider availability in new geographies.

Lyft CEO David Risher on the Future of Autonomous Vehicles and Hybrid Networks

Lyft CEO David Risher believes autonomous vehicles are the future of transportation, predicting a decade-long transition to a hybrid network combining human drivers and AVs. He cited safety and reliability as key advantages of AVs, though acknowledged the need for consumer trust and addressing regulatory and infrastructure challenges. Risher also discussed Lyft's strategy to leverage its data and fleet management capabilities, like Flex Drive, to integrate AVs, emphasizing the company's multi-supplier approach to technology partnerships.

Lyft CEO David Risher on Multimodal Transportation and City Bike Expansion

Lyft CEO David Risher highlighted the company's role beyond ride-hailing, emphasizing its operation of bike-sharing systems like Citi Bike in major cities such as New York, San Francisco, and Chicago. He stressed the importance of multimodal transportation for urban environments and suggested that Lyft's future could extend to other forms of transport, aligning with its core purpose of 'serving and connecting people.'

Lyft CEO David Risher on Solving the 'Phone Left Behind' Problem for Riders

Lyft CEO David Risher detailed the company's efforts to address the common problem of riders leaving phones in vehicles. Lyft has implemented automatic detection systems to alert drivers and riders, and a web portal for recovery. The primary innovation is treating phone returns as a 'ride,' allowing riders to confirm the return, see the exact cost (equivalent to a normal ride), and have it integrated into the driver's queue, aiming for returns within an hour.

Lyft CEO David Risher on Price Lock and Reducing Surge Pricing Impact

Lyft CEO David Risher discussed the company's efforts to mitigate the negative impact of surge pricing on riders, a practice he finds 'customer hostile.' Inspired by a rider's daily stress over fluctuating prices, Lyft has reduced its annual spending on surge pricing by $50 million and introduced 'Price Lock.' This feature allows commuters to lock in a fixed monthly price for a specific route, offering predictability and removing the frustration of variable pricing.

Lyft CEO David Risher Discusses Autonomous Vehicle Technology and Consumer Adoption

Lyft CEO David Risher believes autonomous vehicle technology is crucial for the future, likening the transition to a 'platform shift' that requires embracing innovation. He highlighted the safety and reliability benefits of AVs, while acknowledging challenges in consumer trust and regulation. Risher foresees a hybrid model for years to come and discussed Lyft's partnerships with AV developers like Baidu for international markets, emphasizing the need for multiple technology suppliers.

Lyft CEO David Risher on the Societal Impact of Transportation Technology

Lyft CEO David Risher emphasized the profound societal role of transportation technology, particularly in enhancing the quality of life for an aging population. He highlighted Lyft's 'Lyft Silver' program, designed to make services more accessible for older adults. Risher believes that facilitating social connection through accessible transportation is as crucial as advancements in healthcare for promoting healthy, long lives.

Jul 3 · Venture Capital During the AI Revolution with Mamoon Hamid7 stories

Mamoon Hamid Reflects on Early AI Investment Strategy

Mamoon Hamid, managing partner at Kleiner Perkins, discusses the firm's early investment strategy in AI, focusing on companies that build on frontier models. He highlights the immense opportunity driven by AI, comparing its impact to the Industrial Revolution and emphasizing that software remains crucial despite the current focus on foundational AI models.

AI's Labor Market Impact: Enhancement, Not Replacement, Says Hamid

Mamoon Hamid argues that AI will primarily enhance, rather than replace, white-collar labor, drawing parallels to the adoption of email and computers. He notes that AI is creating new types of jobs and augmenting existing roles, citing the need for more skilled labor and the potential for AI to democratize access to services.

Kleiner Perkins Refocuses on Early-Stage Investing with AI Emphasis

Mamoon Hamid details Kleiner Perkins' strategic shift in 2017-2018 back to a smaller, nimble partnership focused on early-stage Series A investing. This move aimed to recapture the firm's historical success, emphasizing technical expertise and operator experience in backing technology's impact on humanity, with a current focus on AI startups.

Hamid on Kleiner Perkins' Learning Process: Analyzing Missed Deals

Mamoon Hamid explains Kleiner Perkins' practice of reviewing missed deals from peer firms weekly to ensure they are seeing relevant opportunities. He emphasizes the importance of in-person meetings over Zoom for better founder assessment, citing a missed investment in Anthropic due to a virtual-only initial interaction.

AI as 'Units of Labor' Driving Trillions in Economic Opportunity

Mamoon Hamid views AI as 'units of labor' with the potential to unlock trillions of dollars in economic value by impacting roughly $30-35 trillion of global GDP tied to white-collar work. He cites Anthropic's rapid revenue growth as an example of this transformative potential, suggesting AI will fundamentally change how labor is utilized across industries.

Hamid Identifies AI Investment Targets by 'Labor Pyramid'

Mamoon Hamid explains Kleiner Perkins' AI investment strategy by targeting the 'labor pyramid,' starting with high-paying roles like lawyers and software developers, and moving down to financial analysts, salespeople, and eventually physical labor. Companies like Harvey (legal AI) and Rogo (finance AI) exemplify this approach.

Venture Capital is a Power Law Business: Focusing on Winners

Mamoon Hamid describes venture capital as a 'power law business' where a few exceptional companies drive most of the returns. He notes that currently, 90% of AI revenue is concentrated in just two companies, highlighting the challenge and importance of identifying these category-defining winners early on to avoid conflicts of interest.

Jul 2 · At The Money: Building a Bond Ladder with ETFs9 stories

ETFs Offer New Path to Building Bond Ladders for Investors Seeking Yield

Barry Ritson explains that while bond ladders were historically complex and required significant capital, inexpensive ETFs now make them accessible. Stephen Lately, from Blackrock, elaborates on how these ETFs, like Blackrock's iBonds, provide diversification and liquidity, simplifying the process for investors aiming for yield in uncertain rate environments.

The Mechanics and Appeal of Bond Ladders Explained

Stephen Lately describes a bond ladder as a strategy to manage interest rate risk and ensure cash flows by investing in bonds with staggered maturity dates. This approach offers investors a sense of control, allowing them to reinvest maturing principal at potentially higher rates if interest rates rise.

iShares Pioneered ETF Bond Laddering with iBonds in 2010

Stephen Lately discusses the evolution of bond laddering, noting that individual bonds can lead to concentration issues for smaller investors. He highlights iShares' iBonds, launched in 2010, as a solution that holds hundreds of bonds within a single year's maturity, offering significant diversification.

iShares Bond ETFs Offer Liquidity and Cost Advantages Over Individual Bonds

Stephen Lately points out that bond ETFs like iShares provide significant advantages in terms of liquidity and cost compared to holding individual bonds. Investors can sell ETF holdings easily on an exchange, and the trading costs are considerably lower than those for individual bonds.

iShares Ladder Builder Tool Simplifies ETF Bond Ladder Construction

Barry Ritson highlights the iShares Ladder Builder tool on iShares.com as a popular resource for investors. This tool allows users to input desired dollar amounts and bond types (Corporate, Treasury, TIPS, Muni, High Yield) to visualize and construct customized ETF bond ladders, even out to 30 years.

Balancing Risk and Return in High-Yield Bond Ladders

Stephen Lately addresses the use of high-yield bonds in a ladder, noting that while they offer higher potential returns, they also carry a greater risk of default. He emphasizes that investors must perform a calculated risk assessment to determine their tolerance for such risk.

Understanding Bond ETF Maturity and Liquidation in a Ladder

Stephen Lately clarifies how bond ETFs in a ladder behave as maturity approaches. Unlike individual bonds that mature to cash, bonds within an ETF mature and are reinvested into short-term paper or cash. When the ETF itself liquidates, the cash is then transferred to the investor's brokerage account.

Common Pitfalls in Building Bond Ladders: Yield Chasing and Reinvestment Uncertainty

Stephen Lately identifies common mistakes investors make when building bond ladders, including chasing yield and neglecting to plan for reinvestment. He advises investors to first define their financial goals and then work backward to construct a ladder that aligns with those objectives, considering different asset classes for safety or income.

Perpetual Bond Laddering Mirrors Index Fund Behavior, Research Suggests

Stephen Lately shares a surprising insight from academic research: consistently reinvesting maturing proceeds to the longest rung of a bond ladder over time closely resembles the behavior of an index fund. This suggests that investors seeking index-like performance might consider either strategy.